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-------------------------------------------------- 36 73510,3124 FTL 2 andrew 47 70007,1657 ORQ 2 Bill 49 76004,2001 VNC 2 Chris 66 70007,3531 DUK 2 Bill Valentine-Coop 75 73567,3011 ANB 1 DAN WOOLDRIDGE 77 71450,2050 RIC 2 Chris/Genesys 86 71076,434 DAO 2 Karl Sparklin 91 74456,3077 PNX 2 Joe Hughes 107 72177,3504 VAN 2 MikeB/MI 112 76703,4253 RIC 2 Rick/SYSOP 116 70407,534 NWD 2 Thomas Holaday 127 75156,3352 PCO 2 Mike Lamb 132 70616,1660 EVI 2 Harry H. Lawson -------------------------------------------------- Rick/SYSOP: Okay folks, let's get rolling... Mike Lamb: ? Rick/SYSOP: <Banging gavel> <Hold your "?"s for a moment, please, so I don't loose them...> Welcome to a formal conference with Mike Berro and Chris Caracci of... MicroIllusions. Tonight's subject is Photon Paint 2.0, although... I'm sure they will discuss other matters if asked nicely 8)... You may have heard that MI has thoughtfully agreed to donate a copy of... Photon Paint 2.0 as an "electronic door prize" for the CO tonight... the way that will work is that, at some random point tonight, I will... call a recess and we'll have the drawing... anyone in the room at that... point will be eligible. Until then, don't worry about it... Mike, Chris, Welcome! Care to make any opening comments? GA please. MikeB/MI: Just want to say it's a pleasure being here, and to ask how many here have Photon Paint 2.0? ga Rick/SYSOP: Show of hands, everyone with PP 2.0, say "Yes" or Aye or something. GA folks. Joe Hughes: Not yet Mike Lamb: nay Bill: Hasn't arrived yet. <frown> Karl Sparklin: Not yet. andrew: nope DAN WOOLDRIDGE: no Thomas Holaday: ?no Rick/SYSOP: Looks like you're ahead of the wave, Mike! Great time to talk about the... Chris: Should I turn red, or what? Rick/SYSOP: new features you've added... Okay folks, the floor is now open. The ?s posted earlier have scrolled, so I... Thomas Holaday: ? Rick/SYSOP: will ask everyone to queue up again, please. Mike Lamb: ? Rick/SYSOP: 1) Thol, GA please. DAN WOOLDRIDGE: ? Thomas Holaday: Any suggestions about best way to use HP Scanjet files as input for Photon Paint? Scanjet can produce raw black and white bitmaps at 30-0 dpi. ga MikeB/MI: Thol, PP2.0 reads only IFF pics, but reads them in any mode. You first need... Karl Sparklin: ? MikeB/MI: ...to convert the images to IFF. I'm not familiar with the scanjet format,... ]..so I can't direct you to a converter. ga Rick/SYSOP: Thol, any followup? GA Thomas Holaday: The format is raw 000111 white and black dots. Is it tough to cobble that into IFF if I have the IFF spec? no header, just bits. ga MikeB/MI: Thol, is there any info about the size of the pic in the file? ga Thomas Holaday: no info in file, but I'm making the file so I can put it there. Scanjet --> AmigaDOS file is done. ga MikeB/MI: Thol, it can be done. The Amiga screen bitmap is just ones and zeros, and it is converted to IFF by... ..standard routines, so something could be cobbled together. ga Thomas Holaday: thanks. ga Rick/SYSOP: 2) Mike Lamb, GA please! Mike Lamb: I have a needed.. interest in contour mapping, and I had heard that PPII indeed has that capability, any elaboration please? ga -------------------------------------------------- 36 73510,3124 FTL 2 andrew 47 70007,1657 ORQ 2 Bill 49 76004,2001 VNC 2 Chris 66 70007,3531 DUK 2 Bill Valentine-Coop 75 73567,3011 ANB 2 DAN WOOLDRIDGE 86 71076,434 DAO 2 Karl Sparklin 91 74456,3077 PNX 2 Joe Hughes 107 72177,3504 VAN 2 MikeB/MI 112 76703,4253 RIC 2 Rick/SYSOP 116 70407,534 NWD 2 Thomas Holaday 127 75156,3352 PCO 2 Mike Lamb 132 70616,1660 EVI 2 Harry H. Lawson 133 71240,2152 STC 2 Pete Gould -------------------------------------------------- Chris: Mike L.: Without going into a lot of detail, the contour map... ...function does allow the "draping" of a brush over a previously... prepared background. The brush is then rotated with a version... of the tilt function and then finally rendered (with light and... ...shadow from the Luminosity Function) into a psuedo-3d shape. ga Mike Lamb: ok, thanks, i would ask more.. Rick/SYSOP: Mike, any followup? GA <GA Mike> Mike Lamb: but my 3 yesr old seems not to be interested. thanks I am trying to type and hold him,go on ahead. ga MikeB/MI: Rick seems to have dropped off the line. -------------------------------------------------- 36 73510,3124 FTL 2 andrew 47 70007,1657 ORQ 2 Bill 49 76004,2001 VNC 2 Chris 66 70007,3531 DUK 2 Bill Valentine-Coop 75 73567,3011 ANB 2 DAN WOOLDRIDGE 86 71076,434 DAO 2 Karl Sparklin 91 74456,3077 PNX 2 Joe Hughes 107 72177,3504 VAN 2 MikeB/MI 116 70407,534 NWD 2 Thomas Holaday 122 71420,471 DCF 2 Rob Salmon 132 70616,1660 EVI 2 Harry H. Lawson 133 71240,2152 STC 2 Pete Gould -------------------------------------------------- Karl Sparklin: Who was "3"? MikeB/MI: Karl, you were. Karl Sparklin: I were 4! Rick/SYSOP: Sorry folks... lost carrier! MikeB/MI: Rick, Dan, then Karl are next. Rick/SYSOP: Did you folks go on without me, or should I pick up with the next... ah, okay, thanks... Mike, what I was typing when I lost it... (MikeL, that is)... is that you can reque when thing settle down onyour end... 3) Dan Woolridge, GA please! <Whew> DAN WOOLDRIDGE: Hello. I,m sorry to say I don't have Photon paint. Am considering between yours or Digi-Paint. Can you sell me on yours? Chris: Dan: Do you have all night? Honestly I could, but perhaps you.. ..could call our 800 number tomorrow. Rick/SYSOP: Chris, list the 800 number right now! Chris: all: Okay, 800-522-2041. Rick/SYSOP: Is that a "9 to 5" number? Chris: Yes, Pacific time. MikeB/MI: Rick, 9-5 PDT, and outside CA only. Rick/SYSOP: Thanks... Chris, could you at least give us the major points (thanks Mike)... on which PP differs from Digi-Paint or the other packages? GA Chris: Dan and all: I think the brush manipulations, in particular the.. .."Wrap On" functions are yet to be duplicated. And most of our.. functions are faster. The multiple-page and animation capability.. ..hasn't been done yet, either. Photon even in 1.0 makes the best.. Bill: ! Chris: ..of the HAM mode to help get past HAM artifacts. Separate fore-.. ..background pen modes, more modes (Blend, Add, Subtract, And, Or,.. Xor, Use Hue, Use Hue-and-Saturation. And then there's all the.. ..different Sources, including patterns from the brush, and the.. ..famous "Rub-Through" from the page under the one you're working.. ..on. The Stencil (Which you draw around an area, NOT protect colors).. ..is one of my favorites, especially for animation. Support of Color-.. andrew: [_[[[/users -------------------------------------------------- 18 76703,4253 RIC 2 Rick/SYSOP 36 73510,3124 FTL 2 andrew 47 70007,1657 ORQ 2 Bill 49 76004,2001 VNC 2 Chris 66 70007,3531 DUK 2 Bill Valentine-Coop 75 73567,3011 ANB 2 DAN WOOLDRIDGE 86 71076,434 DAO 2 Karl Sparklin 91 74456,3077 PNX 2 Joe Hughes 107 72177,3504 VAN 2 MikeB/MI 126 75035,1246 MEX 2 Tim Burford 132 70616,1660 EVI 2 Harry H. Lawson 133 71240,2152 STC 2 Pete Gould -------------------------------------------------- Chris: ..Fonts, user-definable grid. I really can go on, but ga. DAN WOOLDRIDGE: ThAre you saying PP II now has anim's? ga Rick/SYSOP: Geez, you really COULD go on all night <grin>... Bill, you had a comment? GA <Bill, hold for Dan please> Chris: Dan: It loads and saves in the most standard anim format we could.. ..use (Opt 5 from Sparta). ga. MikeB/MI: "most standard"=latest. ga Rick/SYSOP: Bill, GA with your comment, please. Bill: The single feature that sold me PP 1.0 was the variable "zoom" magnification window. GA Rick/SYSOP: Chris, MikeB, any comment? GA Chris: Bill: Sorry, I'm spoiled with the new toys on 2.0. Thanks for.. reminding me. It's still there. ga Rick/SYSOP: Hehe... Dan, did you have any further followup? GA please. DAN WOOLDRIDGE: Thanks! I Like what I here I'll stay and listen to more. GA -------------------------------------------------- 18 76703,4253 RIC 2 Rick/SYSOP 36 73510,3124 FTL 2 andrew 47 70007,1657 ORQ 2 Bill 49 76004,2001 VNC 2 Chris 66 70007,3531 DUK 2 Bill Valentine-Coop 75 73567,3011 ANB 2 DAN WOOLDRIDGE 86 71076,434 DAO 2 Karl Sparklin 91 74456,3077 PNX 2 Joe Hughes 107 72177,3504 VAN 2 MikeB/MI 126 75035,1246 MEX 2 Tim Burford 132 70616,1660 EVI 2 Harry H. Lawson 133 71240,2152 STC 2 Pete Gould -------------------------------------------------- Rick/SYSOP: Hokay... 4) Karl Sparklin, GA please! Karl Sparklin: Can you give more detail on the animation feature and its user interface... while I continue to sit here drooling? gaga -------------------------------------------------- 18 76703,4253 RIC 2 Rick/SYSOP 36 73510,3124 FTL 2 andrew 47 70007,1657 ORQ 2 Bill 49 76004,2001 VNC 2 Chris 66 70007,3531 DUK 2 Bill Valentine-Coop 75 73567,3011 ANB 2 DAN WOOLDRIDGE 86 71076,434 DAO 2 Karl Sparklin 91 74456,3077 PNX 2 Joe Hughes 107 72177,3504 VAN 2 MikeB/MI 126 75035,1246 MEX 2 Tim Burford 132 70616,1660 EVI 2 Harry H. Lawson 133 71240,2152 STC 2 Pete Gould -------------------------------------------------- Chris: Karl: As usual, there are keyboard commands for everything. When.. ..you are going from page to page to touch up differences one from.. ..the other, you usually don't want to fool around with menus... ..Well, you don't have to. You can copy one page (a background.. ..for instance) from one page to the next and automatically open.. ..new pages as you do so with just two keystrokes. Then, you can.. ..go from page to page in order, or skip to the one you want. The.. ..key to Animate the whole thing is simply an "a". You can ex-.. ..change pages, delete the one you're on or all BUT the one you're.. ..on, Merge one to another. The keyboard commands are especially.. ..handy when you are placing a previously prepared brush on suc-.. ..cesive pages. You can leave it in place as you manipulate the.. ..pages with the keyboard, and know it is in the right place. ga Rick/SYSOP: Nifty. Karl, any followup? GA Karl Sparklin: <grabbing for checkbook> Sounds great! You mentioned importing.... animations. Must they already be in separate frames, and in HAM? ga Chris: Karl: No, they don't have to be in separate frames, but yes, they.. ..must be in HAM. ga Karl Sparklin: Thanks. ga, Rick. Rick/SYSOP: Chris, since we're talking about anims, I have two questions... first, you said you're conforming to the newest standard... how backward-compatible is that with older formats; what CAN'T you handle, and... what programs can't handle your output? Second, how do the anim capabilities.. of PP 2.0 compare with a dedicated anim package such as, say, MovieSetter? GA <Remember, folks: the queue is open, register your questions with "?"> MikeB/MI: The "opt 5" format has been around for over a year, and I know of no commercial anim programs... ...that do not use it... ..Early versions of Aegis' Animator used an earlier version, but no longer.. Chris: Rick: PP2.0 is not primarily an anim package, but the anim features.. ..are very complete for a paint program. There's an adjustable delay.. andrew: i]/? line noise Chris: ..an automatic "looping" function and a reverse as well. There are.. ..limitations of course. This is uncompressed animation we '.. WE'RE talking about. (I love typos, don't you?) But it is about.. ..as fast as can be. Also, we are stuck with whatever RAM is available.. ..but when you are using PP 2.0 to prepare an anim, you will find it.. -------------------------------------------------- 18 76703,4253 RIC 2 Rick/SYSOP 36 73510,3124 FTL 2 andrew 47 70007,1657 ORQ 2 Bill 49 76004,2001 VNC 2 Chris 66 70007,3531 DUK 2 Bill Valentine-Coop 75 73567,3011 ANB 2 DAN WOOLDRIDGE 86 71076,434 DAO 2 Karl Sparklin 88 76004,1767 MIL 2 Stan Kalisher (Impu 91 74456,3077 PNX 2 Joe Hughes 107 72177,3504 VAN 2 MikeB/MI 126 75035,1246 MEX 2 Tim Burford 133 71240,2152 STC 2 Pete Gould -------------------------------------------------- Chris: ..the perfect tool to get the motion you want WHILE YOU ARE DRAWING. ga Rick/SYSOP: Okay. So if someone was going to get HEAVILY into animations they might be... better off getting a dedicated animator, perhaps? Whereas with PP 2.0, it's... "Hey, we have this outstanding paint program, and it also lets you do... fairly nice animations if you find you need them occasionally"? Is that... a fair assessment? GA Stan Kalisher (Impu: ? Chris: Rick: "Fairly nice animations"? No that's not quite right. While 2.0.. ..may not be a complete anim environment, the stuff made with it.. ..does look as good or better than what a more "helpful" (read, .. Pete Gould: !! Chris: .."cluttered" in my book) environment might produce. ga Rick/SYSOP: Okay, I sit corrected... Pete Gould, you had a comment? GA please. Pete Gould: Could we type shorter lines? ... When you go over about 60 columns, the remainder gets cut off. ga Rick/SYSOP: Pete, we can try... but there is a fix for that... what terminal program are you using? GA Pete Gould: xtalk ga more... I'm on my PC, not my Amiga. ga Rick/SYSOP: what terminal program are you using? GA <Sorry, hit resend..>> Okay, there is an option for enabling line wrap... hit your HOME key to bring up the map, or ask for help... it should be there in the list. It's probably off;... turn it on and the lines should auto-wrap. BUT... let's all try to use shorter lines, anyway... 5) Stan Kalisher, GA please! Stan Kalisher: Chris - The ONLY dissapointment I found in PP 2.0 was not using 12 Bit .... mode to get cleaner HAM images. Any Idea what this was bypassed ? GA MikeB/MI: Stan, for one thing, it would have made animation very RAM intensive... Bill Valentine-Coop: OP/exit MikeB/MI: ...It would also make many of the complex operations very slow. ga Rick/SYSOP: Stan, any followup? GA -------------------------------------------------- 18 76703,4253 RIC 2 Rick/SYSOP 36 73510,3124 FTL 2 andrew 47 70007,1657 ORQ 2 Bill 49 76004,2001 VNC 2 Chris 66 70007,3531 DUK 2 Bill Valentine-Coop 75 73567,3011 ANB 2 DAN WOOLDRIDGE 86 71076,434 DAO 2 Karl Sparklin 88 76004,1767 MIL 2 Stan Kalisher 91 74456,3077 PNX 2 Joe Hughes 107 72177,3504 VAN 2 MikeB/MI 126 75035,1246 MEX 2 Tim Burford 133 71240,2152 STC 2 Pete Gould -------------------------------------------------- Stan Kalisher: I sort of thought that PP was more of a paint program that had animation ... capabilities. Personally I wouldn't mind using PP's neat tools and effects ... in 12 bit mode, then saving to ILBM. Once the IMage was real clean in the ... animation, you could still do minor editing of frames without screwing up the .. pallette too much. GA MikeB/MI: Stan, I can guess why, too! hehe. We wanted PP1.0 to run.... ...on the minimum system, and it does. PP2.0 requires 1 meg... ..I do want to mention that we would like suggestions... ..for the next version, and I will pass yours on, Stan. ga Stan Kalisher: I don't the speed would be that much of a problem. If you look at Diamond's Big Brush operations, they aren't really that much slower than PP 2.0 and all is done in 3 4 bit buffers. .. I would also (personally) like "bluing" GA Rick/SYSOP: Bluing? GA MikeB/MI: Stan, the light source adds a lot to the complexity of... ..the calculations. Bluing? Stan Kalisher: Rick - "bluing" is the MidWestern animation term for having a shadow of the .. previous cell frozen in the background for making current cell movements.... BTW Dpaint III forgot this feature also. GA Rick/SYSOP: Ah, okay, I see... Bell: <DING DING DING DING DING!!!> Rick/SYSOP: AHA... it's that time! Okay folks, pull out your tickets, it's time for the drawing... First, let me get a snapshot of the crowd for reference, hold on... MikeB/MI: What happens if I win? hehe. Rick/SYSOP: Okay folks, it's time for the doorprize drawing! Here's the way it will work. I will call on each of you in turn as listed in the CO UST directory as of this moment. When you are called, type "/ROLL 100", which will generate a random number for you. Whoever gets the HIGHEST NUMBER will win the electronic door -------------------------------------------------- 18 76703,4253 RIC 2 Rick/SYSOP 36 73510,3124 FTL 2 andrew 47 70007,1657 ORQ 2 Bill 49 76004,2001 VNC 2 Chris 50 72250,2677 PNT 2 Dean 66 70007,3531 DUK 2 Bill Valentine-Coop 75 73567,3011 ANB 2 DAN WOOLDRIDGE 86 71076,434 DAO 2 Karl Sparklin 88 76004,1767 MIL 2 Stan Kalisher 91 74456,3077 PNX 2 Joe Hughes 107 72177,3504 VAN 2 MikeB/MI 126 75035,1246 MEX 2 Tim Burford 133 71240,2152 STC 2 Pete Gould -------------------------------------------------- Rick/SYSOP: prize: a brand-new, hot-off-the-presses copy of Photon Paint 2.0. (Please note that due to data loss I MAY NOT SEE your wonderful roll and therefore ask you to roll again. The decision of the moderator will be FINAL, regardless of what you may see on YOUR display.) Okay, let's GO!... <Mike, if YOU win, we lynch you for rigging the CIS computers 8) >... Stan Kalisher: IF I win can I donate mine? I got 3 copies already. Rick/SYSOP: Alright, here's what you'll see as each person is called... ***DICE***: Rick/SYSOP rolled 24/100 Rick/SYSOP: Blech, glad I'm not eligible, 24, hah! 8) Okay, here we go... Andrew, you're first, type /ROLL 100 please. ***DICE***: andrew rolled 62/100 Rick/SYSOP: 62 is the number to beaat... Bill, you're next, go! ***DICE***: Bill rolled 11/100 Rick/SYSOP: Ouch. Dean, go! ***DICE***: Dean rolled 31/100 Rick/SYSOP: Bill Valentine, go! ***DICE***: Bill Valentine-Coop rolled 12/100 Rick/SYSOP: Somebody yell if I make a mistake, so far it's still Andrew with 62... Dan Woolridge, go! ***DICE***: DAN WOOLDRIDGE rolled 25/100 Rick/SYSOP: Too bad... Karl Sparklin, go! ***DICE***: Karl Sparklin rolled 70/100 Rick/SYSOP: Oho... 70 is the new high... Stan Kalisher, go! ***DICE***: Stan Kalisher rolled 42/100 andrew: ouch Rick/SYSOP: That's the ANSWER, but it's not a winner... Joe Hughes, GA please! ***DICE***: Joe Hughes rolled 47/100 Rick/SYSOP: Nice try... Tim Burford, go! ***DICE***: Tim Burford rolled 73/100 Karl Sparklin: Pththh. Rick/SYSOP: Whoa, talk about edging somebody out... Pete Gould, you are the final... ***DICE***: Pete Gould rolled 39/100 Rick/SYSOP: contestant... beat 73 and it's yours... Not good enough... Tim Burford: Alright!!! Rick/SYSOP: A round of electronic applause, folks, for Tim Burford! ***DICE***: MikeB/MI rolled 3,6 MikeB/MI rolled 85/100 Rick/SYSOP: <Clapping hands> DAN WOOLDRIDGE: Yea Joe Hughes: congratulations Chris: Right on, Tim!! Karl Sparklin: <rampant applause> Stan Kalisher: Congrats! Tim Burford: Thanks Rick/SYSOP: Tim! What paint programs do you have now? GA ***DICE***: Chris rolled 21/100 Tim Burford: PhotonI, DPIII and some others I borrow Bill: <<Good thing Chris rolled low!!>> ***DICE***: DAN WOOLDRIDGE rolled 12/100 Rick/SYSOP: Well, now you get to see what Photon II will do for you! Congrats... Tim Burford: I am also working on a commercial game doing the graphics. Rick/SYSOP: Mike Berro, which PPN would you like Tim to use to contact you? Tim, fantastic! MikeB/MI: Rick, use 76004,2001. Tim Burford: got it Rick/SYSOP: Okay Tim, send Mike an EasyPlex at 76004,2001 with your address and whatnot... and you folks can work out the gory details between you. Hokay? Tim Burford: Thanx Rick/SYSOP: (Gee... that was sort of thrilling!) MikeB/MI: Tim, what is your PPN so I can verify it's you? Rick/SYSOP: Well, after that, should we try to go back to formal or just jabber? Show of... Tim Burford: 75035,1246 Rick/SYSOP: hands... how many people want to go casual now? YAY or YES or something, NOW. MikeB/MI: Stan, were you finished? Karl Sparklin: Yup DAN WOOLDRIDGE: Yea Pete Gould: Sure! Bill Valentine-Coop: OK Chris: Fine. Tim Burford: yay -------------------------------------------------- 18 76703,4253 RIC 2 Rick/SYSOP 36 73510,3124 FTL 2 andrew 47 70007,1657 ORQ 2 Bill 49 76004,2001 VNC 2 Chris 50 72250,2677 PNT 2 /nam Dean 66 70007,3531 DUK 2 Bill Valentine-Coop 75 73567,3011 ANB 2 DAN WOOLDRIDGE 86 71076,434 DAO 2 Karl Sparklin 107 72177,3504 VAN 2 MikeB/MI 126 75035,1246 MEX 2 Tim Burford 133 71240,2152 STC 2 Pete Gould -------------------------------------------------- Rick/SYSOP: Okay, hold the CASUAL votes... /nam Dean: YAP Rick/SYSOP: is there ANYONE who wants to go back formal? If so, vote YAY or something, NOW. <Tick tick tick tick> Karl Sparklin: Bzzzzt. MikeB/MI: <theme to jeopardy> Rick/SYSOP: Hokay, the YAYs have it... Thanks Mike and Chris for coming tonight... and thanks to MI for donating the door prize... and one more congratulations to Tim Burford! <Banging gavel> All are now free to chat! Karl Sparklin: Ouch! MikeB/MI: Tim, make sure you hang it on your door. Rick/SYSOP: <MikeB, I'm thinking about using theme to Jeopardy for my ansewring machine... "You have thirty seconds to think of a message... be sure to phrase it in... Karl Sparklin: "What is..obnoxious phone messages for 50" Tim Burford: Will do. Thanks alot Mike Rick/SYSOP: the form of a question... Do de do da do de do... do de do da dip... dodedadoda...> MikeB/MI: Rick, remind me to forget your phone number. Tim Burford: I haven't been on CIS in a week. Just happened to drop on and saw the conf. going on Rick/SYSOP: *PERFECT* timing!!! Play the lottery, do you? <Wide grin> Karl Sparklin: Tim>I can't tell you how GLAD I am you stopped in!!!!! <grin> Tim Burford: DOgs!! -------------------------------------------------- 18 76703,4253 RIC 2 Rick/SYSOP 36 73510,3124 FTL 2 andrew 47 70007,1657 ORQ 2 Bill 49 76004,2001 VNC 2 Chris 50 72250,2677 PNT 2 Dean 66 70007,3531 DUK 2 Bill Valentine-Coop 75 73567,3011 ANB 2 DAN WOOLDRIDGE 86 71076,434 DAO 2 Karl Sparklin 107 72177,3504 VAN 2 MikeB/MI 126 75035,1246 MEX 2 Tim Burford 133 71240,2152 STC 2 Pete Gould -------------------------------------------------- Tim Burford: Sorry Karl. I'll send you my game when it comes out. MikeB/MI: Tim, are you doing anu of the game graphics in ham? Karl Sparklin: Oh. Ok. <grabbing pencil for Tim's PPN> MikeB/MI: err, "anu"=any andrew: thanks for the time and I enjoyed the presentation .good nite all Rick/SYSOP: Do you have a name/distributor for this game yet? Tim Burford: No. Just 16 color pallette MikeB/MI: Bye andrew! Thanx for stopping by. Dean: Nite Andrew Bill: Nite Andrew Rick/SYSOP: Thanks for stopping in, andrew... looked like you had it, for a while! andrew: later Tim Burford: No distributer. I'm working with two others in Minnesota andrew: ok DAN WOOLDRIDGE: MikeB/MI>What is the fps on the anims? andrew: good nite -------------------------------------------------- 18 76703,4253 RIC 2 Rick/SYSOP 36 73510,3124 FTL 2 andrew 47 70007,1657 ORQ 2 Bill 49 76004,2001 VNC 2 Chris 50 72250,2677 PNT 2 Dean 66 70007,3531 DUK 2 Bill Valentine-Coop 75 73567,3011 ANB 2 DAN WOOLDRIDGE 86 71076,434 DAO 2 Karl Sparklin 107 72177,3504 VAN 2 MikeB/MI 126 75035,1246 MEX 2 Tim Burford 133 71240,2152 STC 2 Pete Gould -------------------------------------------------- Rick/SYSOP: Good question... and does it vary with resolution? Tim Burford: Night andrew Rick/SYSOP: Night, Andrew! Tim Burford: Compu-Serve pays!! I won $1000 back in 1984 for my anims MikeB/MI: Dan, about 7.5 frames per second in either 200 or 400 lines. Rick/SYSOP: Oops, I'm sorry, that means you're disqualified, Tim. So the prize goes to... Karl Sparklin: uh-oh! Rick/SYSOP: the first runner up... Mr... oops, wait, I misread the rules, never mind. 8) Pete Gould: here it comes... Tim Burford: Did I say $1000? No, MikeB/MI: Sorry, it's about 12 per second in 200 lines, 7.5 in 400 lines. Karl Sparklin: Mike>What was the name of the file here that describes the upgrade policy... DAN WOOLDRIDGE: Thank you. Dean: BRB Karl Sparklin: from PP1.0? I guess I'll order it since there's no longer any reason... MikeB/MI: Karl, "PPUPGR.ARC" in DL10 of the AmigaVendor forum. Karl Sparklin: to put it off!! <glaring at Rick..> Thanks, Mike -------------------------------------------------- 18 76703,4253 RIC 2 Rick/SYSOP 47 70007,1657 ORQ 2 Bill 49 76004,2001 VNC 2 Chris 75 73567,3011 ANB 2 DAN WOOLDRIDGE 86 71076,434 DAO 2 Karl Sparklin 107 72177,3504 VAN 2 MikeB/MI 126 75035,1246 MEX 2 Tim Burford 133 71240,2152 STC 2 Pete Gould -------------------------------------------------- Rick/SYSOP: <Staring at the ceiling and whistling a tune about pseudo-random number generators> Tim Burford: Great, arn't they? Bill: Speaking of upgrades.... Mike - how long does it take to get the upgrade? Rick/SYSOP: Karl, maybe if we can find more generous vendors we can make this a regular... Karl Sparklin: Rick>May your MIDI cables fuse, you sysop, you. Rick/SYSOP: feature... in which case you'd have a second chance. Whatcha think? Karl Sparklin: <greed mode> SURE!! Rick/SYSOP: Karl, MIDI cables don't have fuses. Synthesizers, yes. Cables, no. 8) Chris: Bill, due to the number of orders we' Tim Burford: Have there/ will there be any COs about Photon Animate? Karl Sparklin: Rick>Apply enough AC and any cable will fuse! Rick/SYSOP: Karl, true. 8) Chris: ..(DARN!) we've gotten, it's about two weeks for us to process.. Rick/SYSOP: Photon Animate? <Turning> Chris, Mike? Chris: ..one, not counting mailing time. Karl Sparklin: Rick>Might I suggest such a forum with a giveaway? MikeB/MI: Tim, you mean Cel Animator? You can ask us about any MI product (and might even get an answer!). Tim Burford: Yes Rick/SYSOP: Karl, hmm, one would have to apply pressure where pressure was due. 8) Bill: Hmmmm... my check cleared the bank the 23d. DAN WOOLDRIDGE: ok but how long have you and Tim been brothers? Rick/SYSOP: <Glancing in Mike's direction> Mike> Music-X ship status? MikeB/MI: Rick, I want a co on the A2500, with doorprize. Pete Gould: Great idea!! Karl Sparklin: Rick, I want a CO with.......... Rick/SYSOP: Mike, sure, you call C/A and arrange it. ;) Karl Sparklin: a VIDEO TOASTER!!!! with gigaram!! Chris: Rick; be patient my son. The genius squeezed from the master-.. Rick/SYSOP: Yah, knowing you you'd stick a knife in the toast slots while it was plugged in. 8) Chris: ..programmer's frontal lobes may not be hurried. Pete Gould: I've got an even better idea... Have a co... and then... Karl Sparklin: Video crumbs fall out the bottom. Pete Gould: do a ust at an unannounced time... and give the prize to... Rick/SYSOP: Chris, did I indicate I was in a hurry? Nah. How many years has it been now? 8) Pete Gould: everyone logged in -- it'd do great things for attendance!! Rick/SYSOP: Pete, sure it would. You convince the guest and we'll do it. Chris: Rick; Not my fault, that was before I started cracking the.. MikeB/MI: Tim, did you have a specific question regarding Cel Animator? Chris: ..whip at M.I.:) Tim Burford: I just wanted to say, I fell in love... Rick/SYSOP: Hey, the ONLY reason I can say anything here with safety is that nobody knows... Karl Sparklin: Chris>Rumor is that it was started before you were BORN! Tim Burford: with it after seeing a video on it. Heart sank when I heard the recommended... mem req. Rick/SYSOP: what Chris (nuther Chris) and I have been working on for over a year now. 8) Thank the gods we didn't announce it back then! Karl Sparklin: Rick>Announcement soon? Rick/SYSOP: Tim, what is the recommended RAM? Karl> LA in May! MikeB/MI: Tim, yes, it does require some megs for long animations. Tim Burford: The video suggested a 8 meg system to do most anims. And what I like to... -------------------------------------------------- 18 76703,4253 RIC 2 Rick/SYSOP 47 70007,1657 ORQ 2 Bill 49 76004,2001 VNC 2 Chris 75 73567,3011 ANB 2 DAN WOOLDRIDGE 86 71076,434 DAO 2 Karl Sparklin 107 72177,3504 VAN 2 MikeB/MI 126 75035,1246 MEX 2 Tim Burford 133 71240,2152 STC 2 Pete Gould -------------------------------------------------- Tim Burford: do usually takes all of that. Karl Sparklin: Rick>If it's multi-colored MIDI cables, it's been done. Rick/SYSOP: Yeow! DAN WOOLDRIDGE: Well folks thanks for the info! Night all. Karl Sparklin: Bye, Dan Tim Burford: Of course, after my game is published, I might can afford it. Rick/SYSOP: Seeya Dan! Thanks for coming! Bill: Nite Dan Tim Burford: Night Dan MikeB/MI: Bye Dan. Thanx for coming. DAN WOOLDRIDGE: Gongrats Tim! Tim Burford: Thanx Dan. Chris: G'night DAn. Bill: Well, nite all. ((Closing buffer - copy to LIB1 ??))